I remember that home after the war brought my pappa back home. He had a sister called Mary and several other stepsiblings. Master's name was Joe Sheppard, and he was a Cherokee Indian. When the Vanns were forced from their Spring Place home in 1834, they took many slaves with them when they fled to safety in Tennessee. Everybody had fine clothes everybody had plenty to eat. But we couldnt learn to read or have a book, and the Cherokee folks was afraid to tell us about the letters and figgers because they have a law you go to jail and a big fine if you show a slave about the letters. Marster Jim and Missus Jennie wouldn't let his house slaves go with no common dress out. Indians made us keep our master's name. It had no windows, but it had a wood floor that was kept clean with plenty of brushings, and a fireplace where mammy'd cook the turnip greens and peas and corn--I still likes the cornbread with fingerprints baked on it like in the old days when it was cooked on a skillet over the hot wood ashes. Everything was kept covered and every hogshead had a lock. The commissary was full of everyting good to eat. He would start at de crack of daylight and not git home till way after dark. I remember when the steamboats went up and down the river. Thompson, mixed blood Cherokee Indian, but before that pappy had been owned by three different master; one was the Rich Joe Vann who lived down at Webber Falls and another was Chief Lowery of the Cherokees. Sometimes she pull my hair. Now I'se just old forgotten woman. When we wanted to go anywhere we always got a horse, we never walked. I had to work in the kitchen when I was a gal, and they was ten or twelve children smaller than me for me to look after, too. In one month you have to get back. Mammy got a wagon and we traveled around a few days to go to Fort Gibson. Christmas lasted a whole month. 29 November 2015. http://www.accessgenealogy.com/black-genealogy/slave-narrative-of-b - Last updated on Aug 24th, 2012, VANN SLAVES REMEMBER 2003 By Herman McDaniel Murray County Museum. There was a bugler and someone called the dances. Different friends would come and they'd show that arm. We had fine satin dresses, great big combs for our hair, great big gold locket, double earrings we never wore cotton except when we worked. My brothers was name Sone and Frank. He had to work on the boat, though, and never got to come home but once in a long while. I never would hear much about the war that my father was in, but I know he fought for the North. After the Removal, Joseph Vann was chosen the first Assistant Chief of the united Cherokee Nation under the new 1839 Constitution that was created in Indian Territory (Oklahoma), serving with Principal Chief John Ross. They'd clap their hands and holler. Morris Sheppard was owned by a Cherokee named Joe Sheppard. Of course, all slaves were officially freed during the Civil War. When the white folks danced the slaves would all sit or stand around and watch. Indians wouldn't allow their slaves to take their husband's name. Everything was kept covered and every hogshead had a lock. There was great big wooden scaffolds. One time old Master and another man come and took some calves off and Pappy say old Master taking dem off to sell I didn't know what sell meant and I ast Pappy is he going to bring em back when he git through selling them. After the assassination of James Vann in 1809, his will left all of his very large estate to only one of his children, Joseph Vann (thereafter known as "Rich Joe.").However, the National Council of Chiefs decided to annul Vann's Will and to provide additional shares for the other children: Mary Vann, Robert Vann, Lilly [Delilah Amelia] Vann, He worked in the gold mines. Cherokee VANN Family. Son of Di-Ga-Lo-Hi 'James' "Crazy Chief Vann and Go-sa-du-i-sga Nancy Timberlake We never had no church in slavery, and no schooling, and you had better not be caught wid a book in your hand even, so I never did go to church hardly any. In summer when it was hot, the slaves would sit in the shade evenings and make wooden spoons out of maple. Meanwhile, the Cherokees had presented their news of the slave revolt to the Cherokee National Council at the capital, Tahlequah, and gained approval for a Cherokee Militia unit to pursue, arrest, and deliver the fugitive slaves to Fort Gibson. They rendezvoused with other slaves who had agreed to participate in the revolt, stole horses to ride to their freedom, then broke into a store to steal guns, ammunition, food, and supplies they needed for their planned escape to Mexicowhere slavery was illegal. Chief Joseph did not live to see again the land he'd known as a child and young warrior. Sometimes I eat my bread this morning none this evening. We made money and kept it in a sack. My missus name was Doublehead before she married Jim Vann. Joseph and his sister Mary were children of James Vann and Nannie Brown, both mixed-blood Cherokees. He used to take us to where Hyde Park is and we'd all go fishin'. The cooks would bake hams, turkey cakes and pies and there'd be lots to eat and lots of whiskey for the men folks. All Indians lived around there, the real colored settlement was four mile from us, and I wasn't scared of them Indians for pappa always told me his master Henry Nave, was his own father; that make me part Indian and the reason my hair is long, straight and black like a horse mane. Then we all have big dinner, white folks in the big house, colored folks in their cabins. I remember when the steamboats went up and down the river. There was big parties and dances. After the old time rich folks die, them that had their money buried, they com back and haunt the places where it is. Joseph Vann was born February 11, 1798 near Springplace in the Cherokee Nation (now Georgia) the son of James Vann and Nancy Brown. Now I'se just old forgotten woman. When they get it they take it back to their cabin. He died early in 1771, and was replaced by John Vann. "We'd say "Come on buffalo", and it would come to us. 5 May 1910, d. 2002, Illinois. He owned 110 slaves and on his plantation there were thirty-five houses, a mill and a ferry boat. The engineer's name was Jim Vann. Lord no, he didn't. We had fine satin dresses, great big combs for our hair, great big gold locket, double earrings we never wore cotton except when we worked. I don't know what he done after that. Everybody, white folks and colored folks, having good itme. My pappy was a kind of a boss of the negroes that run the boat, and they all belong to Old Maser Joe. He and Master took race horses down the river, away off and they'd come back with sacks of money that them horses won in the races. The following oral history narrative is from the The WPA Oklahoma Slave Narratives in the Library of Congress, edited by T. Lindsay Baker, Julie Philips Baker: Yes Sa. Birth 1798 - Spring Place, Murray County, Georgia, United States of America Death 26 Oct. 1844 - Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky, USA Mother Nancy Agnes Brown Timberlake Father Chief James Clement Vann Quick access Family tree New search Joseph "Rich Joe" Vann family tree Family tree Explore more family trees Parents Chief James Clement Vann I'se born across the river in the plantation of old Jim Vann in Webbers Falls. But we couldn't learn to read or have a book, and the Cherokee folks was afraid to tell us about the letters because they have a law you go to jail and a big fine if you show a slave about the letters. It made my Master mad, but dey didn't belong to him no more and he couldn't say nothing. Soon as you come out of the water you go over there and change clothes. Christmas lasted a whole month. He jest kept him and he was a good negro after that. Web. The following slave narratives all mention the Vanns. 61 (Spring, 1983). Father of Nancy Vann; David Vann; Sallie Blackburn Vore; William Vann; Sophia S. Johnson and 9 others; Charles J. Vann; Delilah Amelia Brewer; Joseph W. Vann; Jane Elizabeth Vann; James Springston Vann; Mary Frances Vann; John Shepherd Vann, Sr.; Henry Clay Vann and Minerva Vann less When Marster Jim and Missus Jennie went away, the slaves would have a big dance in the arbor. After we got our presents we go way anywhere and visit colored folks on other plantation. My aunt done de carding and spinning and my mammy done de weaving and cutting and sewing , and my pappy could make cowhide shoes wid wooden pegs. Yes, I have seen something, a story about a 'grandson' of Joseph VANN running away to Texas. Coming out of the army for the last time, Pappa took all the family and moved to Fort Scott, Kansas, but I guess he feel more at home wid the Indians for pretty soon we all move back, this time to a farm near Fort Gibson. Everybody was happy. The white folks go first and after they come out, the colored folks go in. They make pens out in the shallow water with poles every little ways from the river banks. Joseph H. Vann, (11 February 1798 - 23 October 1844). He wouldn't take us way off, but just for a ride. Correction Note: The preceding comments by the interviewer incorrectly depicts the relationship between the family members. http://www.timcdfw.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I7805&tree= Joseph Vann removed to the West in 1836. The separation ended at a reunification council with the Cherokee Nation in 1809. Tall and slim and handsome. chief joseph vann family tree. We had a good song I remember. Chief Joseph David VANN passed awayon 1844in in boat race on Ohio River, Indiana. He was a British interpreter for the Cherokees at Fort Loudoun (S.C.) in 1758 and at Augusta in 1763, and continued to fill that position at the 1770 treaty negotiations. All the slaves lived in a log house. Master Jim and Missus Jennie was good to their slaves. His death date is unknown - did NOT die in a steamboat explosion (that happened in 1844 to a different Joe Vann), did NOT die in 1809 (that was his son); was dead by 1800 when Clement Vann is reported by Moravians as husband of Wah li by by He died on September 21, 1904, and was buried in the Colville Indian Cemetery on the Colville Reservation. He made a deal with Dave Mounts, a white man, who was moving into the Indian country to drive for him. My mother Betsy Vann, worked in the big house for the missus. The big house was made of log and stone and had big mud fireplaces. Chief Joseph Rich Joe Vann was born on February 11 1798, in Spring Place, GA, to Chief James Vann, II and Nancy Timberlake. I slept on a sliding bed. After being evicted from his father's mansion home "Diamond Hill" in 1834, Joseph moved his large family (he had two wives) and business operations to Tennessee, where he established a large plantation on the Tennessee River near the mouth of Ooltewah Creek that became the center of a settlement called Vann's Town (later the site of Harrison, Tennessee). Everbody goin' on races gamblin', drinkin', eatin', dancin', but it as all behavior everything all right. After the war I married Paul Alexander, but I never took his name. My husband didn't give me nothing. The place was all woods, and the Cherokees and the soldiers all come down to see the baptising. Lord yes su-er. , Nancy Vann, John Shepherd Vann, David Vann, Jane Elizabeth Vann, Sallie Blackburn Vore (born Vann), Joseph W. Vann, William Vann, Miner https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/collection/1030/tree/69753803/person/36207324186/media/f7398599-0630-429e-b3f8-1944ec3951cd?_phsrc=RGj23082&_phstart=successSource, Spring Place, Murray County, Georgia, United States of America, Spring Place, Murray County, Georgia, United States, Cherokee () Principal Chiefs and Uka: Eastern, Western and Keetoowah, Chief Joseph Rich Joe Vann, Principal Chief, http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lpproots/Neeley/cvann.htm, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Walker_steamboat_disaster. Joseph also inherited his father's gold and deposited over $200,000 in gold in a bank in Tennessee. When they gave a party in the big house, everything was fine. The colored folks did most of the fiddlin'. In 1842, 35 slaves of Joseph Vann, Lewis Ross, and other wealthy Cherokees at Webbers Falls, fled in a futile attempt to escape to Mexico, but were quickly recaptured by a Cherokee possee. New search. We had a good song I remember. James Vann had several other wives and children. Mammy was the house girl and she weaved the cloth and my Aunt Tilda dyed the cloth with indigo, leaving her hands blue looking most of the time. It was Dont Call the Roll, Jesus, Because Im Coming Home. The only song I remember from the soldiers was: Hang Jeff Davis to a Sour Apple Tree, and I remember that because they said he used to be at Fort Gibson one time. They'd cut brush saplings, walk out into the stream ahead of the pen and chase the fish down to the riffle where they'd pick em up. We had about twenty calves and I would take dem out and graze-em while some grown-up negro was grazing de cows so as to keep de cows milk. Us Cherokee slaves seen lots of green corn shootings and de like of dat but we never had no games of our own. He went clean to Louisville, Kentucky, and back. They got over in the Creak country and stood off the Cherokee officers that went to git them, but pretty soon they give up and come home. Little hog, big hog, didn't make no difference. When the last of the Cherokees were forcibly moved west in 1838, government records indicate that 1,592 black slaves were moved to Indian Territory with their owners. James (Chief of Vann's Old Town) Vannhad 1child. Bryan (t) Ward also had a white family and his son John/Jack married a Cherokee woman named Caty McDaniel. He never come until the next day, so dey had to sleep in dat pen in a pile like hogs. Yes, my dear Lord yes. He was a Cherokee leader who owned Diamond Hill (now known as the Chief Vann House), many slaves, taverns, and steamboats that he operated on the Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee Rivers. Its got a buckeye and a lead bullet in it. We settled down a little ways above Fort Gibson. You see, I'se one of them sudden cases. We went by Webber's Falls and filled de wagons. When meal time come, someone ring that bell and all the slaves know its time to eat and stop their work. Then the preacher put you under water three times. Marster had a little race horse called "Black Hock" She was all jet black, excepting three white feet and her stump of a tail. Perhaps because they had observed the prosperity so often achieved by slave-holding whites, Indians of mixed-blood were more apt to own slaves. Owned by the Cherokee Chief James Vann, the Vann House is a Georgia Historic Site on the National Register of Historic Places and one of the oldest remaining structures in the northern third of the state of Georgia. Two year old when my mamma died so I remember nothing of her, and most of my sisters and brothers dead too. Missus Jenni lived in a big house in Webbers Fall.s Don't know where the other one lived. They spun the cottons and wool, weaved it and made cloth. MLA Source Citation: AccessGenealogy.com. We had seven horses and a litle buffalo we'd raised from when its little. We had home-made wooden beds wid rope springs, and de little ones slept on trundle beds dat was home made too. I eat from a big pan set on the floor---there was no chairs--and I slept in a trundle bed that was pushed under the big bed in the daytime. Mammy work late in the night, and I hear the loom making noises while I try to sleep in the cabin. His britches was all muddy and tore where de hounds had cut him up in de legs when he clumb a tree in de bottoms. Dey didn't let us have much enjoyment. By and by I married Nancy Holdebrand what lived on Greenleaf Creek, bout four miles northwest of Gore. He'd take us and enjoy us, you know. Sometimes we got to ride on one, cause we belonged to Old Jim Vann. Run it to the bank!" Numerous others had previously gone to Oklahoma when their masters voluntarily relocated. How did they hear about it at home? Im glad the wars over and I am free to meet God like anybody else, and my grandchildren can learn to read and write. We patted her grave and kissed the ground telling her goodbye. My mother saw it but the colored chillun' couldn't. They got on the horses behind the men and went off. Because mamma was sick then he brought her sister Sucky Pea and her husband, Charley Pea, to help around wid him. I had on my old clothes for the wedding, and I aint had any good clothes since I was a little slave girl. My pappy was a kind of a boss of the Negroes that run the boat, and they all belong to old Master Joe. He and Master took race horses down the river, away off and they'd come back with sacks of money that them horses won in the races. But later on I got a freedman's allotment up in dat part close to Coffeyville, and I lived in Coffeyville a while but I didn't like it in Kansas. Master give me over to de National Freedmen's bureau and I was bound out to a Cherokee woman name Lizzie McGee. I got my allotment as a Cherokee Freedman, and so did Cal, but we lived here at this place because we was too old to work the land ourselves. Mr. Reese had a big flock of peafowls dat had belonged to Mr. Scott and I had to take care of demWhitefolks. 502-524. I went to the missionary Baptist church where Marster and Missus went. He used to take us to where Hyge Park is and we'd all go fishin'. They didn't go away, they stayed, but they tell us colored folks to go if we wanted to. Then one day one of my uncles name Wash Sheppard come and tried to git me to go live wid him. Their slaves also helped build the nearby Moravian mission and school in Spring Place. He had charge of all Master Chism's and Master Vann's race horses. Rich Joe Vann died in Oct. 1844 when the boiler exploded on his steamboat, the "Lucy Walker" during a race with another vessel near New Albany, Ind. After it was wove they dyed it all colors, blue, brown, purple, red, yellow. Sometimes there was high waters that spoiled the current and the steamboats couldn't run. Couldn't nobody go there, less they turn the key. They was Cherokee Indians. He done already sold 'em to a man and it was dat man was waiting for de trader. My mother, grandmother, aunt Maria and cousin Clara, all worked in the big house. My uncle used to baptize 'em. Oh they was good. Yes Lord Yes. In slavery time the Cherokee negroes do like anybody else when they is a death---jest listen to a chapter in the Bible and all cry. When de War come old Master seen he was going into trouble and he sold off most of de slaves. But about the home--it was a double-room log house with a cooling-off space between the rooms, all covered with a roof, but no porch, and the beds was made of planks, the table of pine boards, and there was never enough boxes for the chairs so the littlest children eat out of a tin pan off the floor. Marster had a big Christmas tree, oh great big tree, put on the porch. When we git to Fort Gibson they was a lot of Negroes there, and they had a camp meeting and I was baptised. When the Indians decided to return home for reinforcements, the slaves started moving again toward Mexico. The place was all woods, and the Cherokees and the soldiers all come down to see the baptizing. He was called by his contemporaries "Rich Joe" and many legends of his wealth ware still told among the Cherokees. The slaves had a pretty easy time I think. I sure did love her. Seneca Chism was my father. In winter white folks danced in the parlor of the big house; in summer they danced on a platform under a great big brush arbor. And we had corn bread and cakes baked every day. She was raised up at dat mill, but she was borned in Tennessee before dey come out to de nation. He was the father of Nancy Vann Mackey; and Delilah Amelia, wife of Oliver H. Perry Brewer (Brewer cemetery). In winter white folks danced in the parlor of the big house; in summer they danced on a platform under a great big brush arbor. I got my allotment as a Cherokee Freedman, and so did Cal, but we lived here at this place because we was too old to work the land ourselves. The women dressed in whtie, if they had a white dress to wear. Used to go up and down the river in his steamboat. He wanted people to know he was able to dress his slaves in fine clothes. He say he wanted to git de family all together agin. Another time his officer give him a message; he was on his way to deliver it when the enemy spy him and cry out to stop, but father said he kept on going until he was shot in the leg. Old Master and Mistress kept on asking me did de night riders persecute me any but dey never did. He said that those troops burned the Vann home during their pillage. Up at five o'clock and back in sometimes about de middle of de evening long before sundown, unless they was a crop to git in before it rain or something like dat. They'd sell 'em to folks at picnics and barbecues. Explore historical records and family tree profiles about Chief Vann on MyHeritage, the world's family history network. There was music, fine music. Our marshal made us all sign up like this; who are you, where you come from, where you go to. Then I had clean ward clothes and I had to keep them clean, too! It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. Old mistress was small and mighty pretty too, and she was only half Cherokee. After several days of pursuit, the Indians caught up with the escaped slaves and a heated battle inflicted casualties on both sides. Folks to go up and down the river had seven horses and a lead bullet in it and Master 's. They did n't make no difference race horses jest kept him and he was kind. 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